223rd Date: On Bended Knee....

[00:00:00] Speaker A: You? [00:00:01] Speaker B: Do you have a podcast that you're passionate about? Are you looking for a professional studio to help bring your vision to life? Then look no further than Crux Media Group studios. Located at nine Three West Evans Street in Florence, South Carolina, crux Media Group Studios is a full service podcast studio that offers recording, editing, consultation, live streaming, video recording, and more. We have state of the art equipment and a team of experienced professionals who can help you create a podcast that is professional, polished, and engaging. Whether you're a first time podcaster or a seasoned pro, crux Media Group Studios can help you take your podcast to the next level. Contact us today at 843-407-1673 to learn more about our services and to schedule a consultation. [00:01:05] Speaker A: Good afternoon, good morning. Good evening. I don't know when you're listening, but we're here. Welcome back to Relationship Status with your host, CL Butler. Well, you didn't hear me. You didn't hear Nick at all. So if you see Nick in the. [00:01:24] Speaker C: Street, say something to her. No call, no show. PTO. [00:01:30] Speaker A: She's well over. She's well over. [00:01:31] Speaker C: PTO is done. [00:01:32] Speaker A: She is missing in action. Or gallivant around. [00:01:35] Speaker C: No, she's at a music festival in Atlanta. I don't know which city in Atlanta. [00:01:40] Speaker A: Is the one in there's one there's? Was it one? So you definitely don't be doing my stuff like that. [00:01:48] Speaker C: No, I don't. I don't. Yeah, I'll be out. Yeah. [00:01:50] Speaker A: There's a lot of parties there. I know, but somebody having a party there this. [00:01:53] Speaker C: Yeah. And yes, of course, if you don't know The Voice, I'm your boy Yusuf in the building. And remember, you can find us on all podcast platforms. Remember to, like, share, follow, and five star rate. And if you want to join the conversation, email us, relsta [email protected], see? [00:02:07] Speaker A: Yes, sir. [00:02:08] Speaker C: How's the week, my brother? [00:02:10] Speaker A: I'm great. You great. Great. It's been a little while since we've. [00:02:13] Speaker C: Been on since we've recorded. Yeah, since we've recorded. Shows been out. [00:02:18] Speaker A: Well, let's blame neat. She isn't. [00:02:19] Speaker C: Yeah. Everything's on her. She catches straight. [00:02:22] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:02:22] Speaker C: It's just what it is. [00:02:23] Speaker A: Throwing us off. [00:02:24] Speaker C: Yes. Because we can't never quite turn the corner on. [00:02:29] Speaker A: Can't mesh. [00:02:30] Speaker C: We can't mesh. It just doesn't happen. Ran into one of our fans the other day. [00:02:37] Speaker A: I don't have any fans. [00:02:39] Speaker C: No, I said one of our fans is a show. [00:02:41] Speaker A: If you're a fan of me, you need to get your life together. [00:02:48] Speaker C: Listen, everybody, first off, they say, hey, when are you all going to do video? [00:02:52] Speaker A: Okay? [00:02:52] Speaker C: That's the first thing. [00:02:53] Speaker A: Okay? [00:02:53] Speaker C: We want to know what CL looks like. [00:02:55] Speaker A: Okay. I said look at his IG this is a woman. This is a woman said this? [00:02:59] Speaker C: Yes, it was okay. [00:03:00] Speaker A: I have a girlfriend woman. And no dudes. [00:03:07] Speaker C: No, it wasn't a dude that said it. [00:03:08] Speaker A: Glenn. Dwight Howard told you this? No, it was not Dwight Howard. I don't know what he just that. [00:03:15] Speaker C: Man admitted to his bedroom being his bedroom. [00:03:18] Speaker A: Listen, man, wow. Okay, boy, I won't throw you off. [00:03:21] Speaker C: We got a fan and said that you never quite announced the megachurch. [00:03:30] Speaker A: It's going to be online, rent is I. It's going to be in the virtual space. Sending money. [00:03:39] Speaker C: They just got to send the money. [00:03:40] Speaker A: Like old school religion. Do you believe? Send the money, man. [00:03:43] Speaker C: But if they believe, then where did they go and see the send the money. Okay, figure everything out later. [00:03:49] Speaker A: See, I figured out exclusivity is what makes things work, okay? It's like the illuminati Scientology and everything else. Less is more is less. [00:04:04] Speaker C: All right? Yes. Speaking of more, okay, we have a wonderful couple with us today. They're the hosts of the Vorgasmic Vibes podcast, grant and Shay. How are you guys doing today? [00:04:19] Speaker D: Listen, I'm trying to contain. [00:04:27] Speaker C: But thank. [00:04:28] Speaker E: You for having us, first and foremost. And we're doing good. [00:04:32] Speaker A: Doing good. [00:04:33] Speaker C: Trying not to laugh with his bike just yet. You could have laughed. He was muted. No, it's fine, man. We enjoy a good time, clearly. [00:04:47] Speaker A: How many shows are you all in? [00:04:50] Speaker E: How many have we recorded thus far? [00:04:52] Speaker A: I think we're up to like 2222-2222 shows in. What have you learned from the first show to the 22nd show? [00:04:59] Speaker E: Relax to relax. [00:05:01] Speaker C: Relax. [00:05:01] Speaker D: And don't try to figure it all out. Like not knowing what the other person is going to say or what their views on just adds an extra natural transparent. [00:05:11] Speaker A: Okay, so you all do live together traditionally? [00:05:15] Speaker C: Absolutely. [00:05:15] Speaker A: So how do you not talk about. [00:05:17] Speaker C: Stuff that you got to talk about on the show? [00:05:19] Speaker D: Well, it's not that. Like, if we have a topic, then we'll say, what are going to be the three main points? What are we trying to make sure we get across? And so I never know what he's going to say ever on any day. So even if we discuss it, he's going to come with something else. And I'm like, Wait, what? And so now you get my natural reaction. So I do like that element. The first one we came in here with, legal pass. [00:05:42] Speaker A: Yeah, we was a little too scripted. [00:05:49] Speaker D: Had a lot of anxiety, but now we still may have some notes here or there, but if we go off the handle and don't even touch the notes, I'm cool with that. I feel more comfortable. So just being more natural. [00:06:00] Speaker E: So, yeah, we look way too scripted in the beginning and like you all have taught, just make it a real conversation. Yes, make it natural. Okay. [00:06:10] Speaker A: So no major disagreements on Mike that bled over to the car ride or. [00:06:16] Speaker D: Know we had one. [00:06:17] Speaker A: Okay, somebody got one. You have zero. You said the right thing where you were. [00:06:22] Speaker D: Know, I think when I get in here, I'm going to talk about how you made me feel this way. So I'm like, wait a minute, you never in life told me this. And we're about to get on, discuss it. Like, what are we doing? [00:06:34] Speaker E: I don't recall. [00:06:38] Speaker A: Your memory is the only one that counts every aspect. Yes, that's true. I have two surrenders. Yeah, you right. [00:06:50] Speaker D: But other than that, even that wasn't a disagreement. I'm like, Wait, that was big. And I didn't know you felt that way, and I wish I knew you felt that way. So that's not what we're going to do. [00:06:59] Speaker A: Did you know he had feelings? [00:07:01] Speaker D: Yes. [00:07:01] Speaker A: Okay. [00:07:02] Speaker D: I acknowledge his feelings. [00:07:04] Speaker A: You do? [00:07:04] Speaker D: I do. [00:07:05] Speaker A: Okay. [00:07:06] Speaker D: Even if it's not good feelings, I'm cool with that. [00:07:09] Speaker A: Oh, you are? [00:07:10] Speaker D: Yes. [00:07:12] Speaker A: First, I don't know, I saw from your cousin the other day that the last time a woman apologized was Anita Bacon. That's the last public apology. [00:07:30] Speaker E: It has hit the fan ever since. [00:07:31] Speaker C: Yes. [00:07:33] Speaker A: Okay. [00:07:33] Speaker C: So how long have you guys been married? [00:07:35] Speaker D: It'll be eleven years in March. [00:07:37] Speaker A: 11 years in March. That's awesome. [00:07:41] Speaker C: Yeah. That's great. In today's world. [00:07:47] Speaker A: No, it's just a long time anywhere. [00:07:49] Speaker C: No, in today's times, people aren't people. [00:07:52] Speaker A: Are out quick two years. Tell us more. [00:07:56] Speaker C: Hell, I was out quick. [00:07:58] Speaker A: That's your story, brother. [00:07:59] Speaker D: What was your quick three years? [00:08:02] Speaker E: Oh, that ain't quick. We was on a vacation once, and it was a couple that we was hanging out with one day. The next day he was talking about getting things exonerated. [00:08:13] Speaker D: This was their honeymoon. [00:08:14] Speaker E: This was on their honeymoon. [00:08:15] Speaker A: Really? [00:08:16] Speaker D: Yeah. [00:08:16] Speaker E: So we was hanging out with them. Day one, we was in Jamaica. [00:08:20] Speaker D: Yeah. [00:08:20] Speaker A: Was it vacation friends or friends you knew? [00:08:22] Speaker E: No, we met them. It was on their honeymoon. [00:08:25] Speaker D: They were on a honeymoon. [00:08:26] Speaker E: And it went that left night two and day three. He was a man. [00:08:31] Speaker D: Day three, he was with us without her. [00:08:33] Speaker E: He was hanging out with us the whole day. [00:08:34] Speaker D: I was trying to help him, like, sir, just send us some wings or something to the room. We like to eat. Send the lady some wings on, because you're doing bad. [00:08:41] Speaker A: He's doing bad. [00:08:42] Speaker D: You're doing bad. [00:08:43] Speaker A: It's called grand opening. Grand closing. [00:08:45] Speaker E: Thank you. The reason he was hanging out with us, because he had the drink package. [00:08:50] Speaker A: Okay. [00:08:51] Speaker E: I was like, Come along with us, man. [00:08:53] Speaker A: We can. [00:08:54] Speaker E: Buying these drinks for me. [00:08:56] Speaker C: Wow. [00:08:57] Speaker A: And that quit. You couldn't talk him off the ledge. [00:09:01] Speaker E: Pray for him. All parties involved on this, we get it. We talk to a lot of people. Marriage ain't for everybody, but if you get in that boat, it's an uphill battle. That is worth it. The risk is definitely worth the reward. [00:09:18] Speaker A: It is. Okay. [00:09:19] Speaker D: It's ongoing work. And I always say it's not for the weak or the weary. You have to know, going in, it's going to take some work. Who you are today, you're not going to be that person in a year, and it's going to keep changing. But we're cool with the work. [00:09:36] Speaker A: Cool with the work. Now, who gave up the most. [00:09:41] Speaker E: Oh, it's a healthy compromise on both ends. [00:09:43] Speaker A: I believe that's the right answer. I'm telling you, I'm in the breath. [00:09:50] Speaker D: I don't know about giving up eleven years. I think I changed a lot more things to be more open. [00:09:59] Speaker A: Okay. [00:10:00] Speaker D: So I think I had to change a lot more things than you did to be open because I was very much this is how I do things, right. [00:10:07] Speaker E: So that's why I was going to say give a little more context behind it. She's the only girl in her household and she's the baby. [00:10:13] Speaker A: Okay. [00:10:14] Speaker E: I'm the only child. [00:10:15] Speaker A: Okay. [00:10:17] Speaker E: So we both used to things being how we want things. So like I said, it was a very healthy compromise on both ends in my opinion. [00:10:26] Speaker C: Okay, so what brought you to the podcasting airways? [00:10:34] Speaker E: I ain't going to say therapy, but a lot of our friends is always reaching out to us for advice because we used to it'll be eleven years come March. We've been together since 2010. We've known each other for going on 13 years and we've never had an argument. [00:10:47] Speaker A: Never had an argument ever. [00:10:49] Speaker D: Well, I think you have to explain. [00:10:50] Speaker E: And I am with that being said, because I agree, I didn't say we didn't have disagreement. [00:10:57] Speaker A: You can have a disagreement. [00:11:00] Speaker E: But there's a healthy respect and cooler heads always prevail we can have a disagreement and discuss something without going into an argument. [00:11:10] Speaker A: Absolutely. [00:11:11] Speaker E: So with that being said, a lot of our friends were asking us advice on different things, talking to us. We are the ones that used to have the game nights at our house. If there was couple trips, we were planning them and inviting the couples to come along. So it was just natural. And she had a person that she was coaching through a situation, and I had a person I was essentially coaching through a situation, just adding healthy advice. So I was like, you know what, I think we had came up with the list of things that we wanted to do. I want to say podcasting was on. [00:11:47] Speaker D: There together, things together we did together. And then we had separate, but some form of it all merged where podcast was the happy medium for how we could fulfill those things. [00:11:59] Speaker E: And in my previous business, I'm an insurance agent by Trey and I was advertising with my previous company via the Music Jones podcast and Kane is Able podcast. And so with that being said, just being in the studio recording my commercials, I was like, yo, this is super fun. [00:12:18] Speaker D: And then they invited you as a. [00:12:19] Speaker E: Guest one day and I was like, yo, this would definitely be fun to do with my wife. [00:12:24] Speaker A: Okay, last couple's question. Have you heard something that he said previously on a podcast that, you know, he doesn't live by or vice versa? Because there's a lot of guys that just do a lot of capping. [00:12:46] Speaker D: I won't say that we don't live by, but I think we'll call each other out, like, when we have certain topics. I'm like, Wait, we slipping now. We just had a whole episode about how we need to do this, this, and this and this. So we will call each other out and say we're slipping in those areas, so how can we talk about it and we're not being about it? So I won't say that he don't live by, but we all fall by the wayside, and I think we both like to be held accountable. [00:13:14] Speaker A: Okay, so he's living his raps. [00:13:16] Speaker D: Yeah. [00:13:16] Speaker A: I'm just checking up on him, though. Now, you all mentioned Liz, before we. [00:13:21] Speaker C: Get to that, vogasmic vibes, how'd you come up with that name as the name for the podcast? What inspired that? [00:13:29] Speaker E: So I'm the creator in that space, so I was play on words. Obviously, everyone loves an orgasmic vibe. [00:13:43] Speaker D: We're like, what would be catchy? [00:13:47] Speaker E: I can't even remember exactly how I came up with it. [00:13:49] Speaker D: We had a list, remember? We were playing around with words, and we narrowed it down to, okay, if we say anything about an orgasm, you at least going to turn your head and be like, wait, what? You at least want to find out what it is, what's going on? So once we had that central word, then he did his thing on the creative side with, how can we turn this into our podcast? And also when you're thinking about, like, he's big on the visuals. What's going to look good even if it's printed? When you're thinking about branding and thing, like, what's still going to be catchy? Make someone feel like, I want that. I at least interested a little bit to find out what they're talking about. [00:14:31] Speaker A: Yes. [00:14:32] Speaker E: And so Vorgasmic came out, and then I was like, Vorgasmic vibe. And then we looked at and vibe itself apparently was already trademarked the word vibe. [00:14:43] Speaker A: Okay. [00:14:44] Speaker E: So that's why we spelt it the way we did it's. V-Y-I-B-E-Z vorgasmic vibe. And I was trying to find in my phone, I had a tongue twister that kind of just it was like a virtuous vortex of vibrant something to that effect. But yeah, I don't know about the letter. V was just sticking out to me. So vorgasmic vibes. [00:15:07] Speaker C: Okay. [00:15:08] Speaker A: I feel like you rap before you rap before I did. Seemed like you rapped before I did. [00:15:13] Speaker D: Vortex. The vibrant vibrations of vigorous victory and vocal vibes. [00:15:17] Speaker A: Okay. [00:15:18] Speaker E: Yeah. [00:15:18] Speaker A: Okay. So any poetry? [00:15:21] Speaker E: I've done poetry. I've done spoken word. I had an underground album. [00:15:27] Speaker A: You had an underground album? Okay. [00:15:29] Speaker E: Rebels Persistence. [00:15:30] Speaker A: Okay. Rebels Persistence. Where can we find that at? Is that stream nowhere? [00:15:36] Speaker E: On a USB drive somewhere? [00:15:38] Speaker A: Okay. [00:15:38] Speaker D: That might be why we got together. First conversation, I'm like, he on this phone rapping. I'm like, okay. [00:15:49] Speaker E: Whatever. [00:15:50] Speaker A: So you never paid any studio time? [00:15:53] Speaker D: No. [00:15:53] Speaker A: Okay, good. It usually makes relationship. [00:15:59] Speaker E: Well, she's going to get in the studio real soon, let's just say that. [00:16:03] Speaker D: Right? [00:16:03] Speaker A: So you do have an interest in music as well. [00:16:06] Speaker E: No, she doesn't. [00:16:07] Speaker A: She does not. [00:16:08] Speaker E: So I'll be 40 in a couple of weeks, and I had a list of 40 things I wanted to do that I've never done before. [00:16:14] Speaker A: Okay. [00:16:14] Speaker E: I love music. I said we have to do at least one song. [00:16:18] Speaker C: Okay. [00:16:18] Speaker A: Are you rapping? Are you singing? What are you doing? [00:16:20] Speaker D: Singing? I guess I can sing, per se. He feels like I hold back and that I'm not singing. [00:16:27] Speaker A: Most people who have songs now can't sing. Yeah. Not saying you don't, but it's a lot of people that just like, how. [00:16:34] Speaker D: Do you but that was one of our common interests. We both have a love for music. Like, I know music, and I know good music. We both just love the element of music. So I'm like, cool. And some years back, I tried to book some studio time for him for a birthday. You got to do it. [00:16:51] Speaker A: Wow. Now, when you say music, is that all genres, or is that just specific? [00:16:56] Speaker D: More all genres for him. [00:16:58] Speaker E: She introduced me to some country music. I've heard country music. [00:17:02] Speaker A: Country music is great. [00:17:03] Speaker E: It is. [00:17:03] Speaker A: I listen to some country music. [00:17:07] Speaker E: For me, at one point, it was just hip hop, hip hop and RB. But she's definitely well, more rounded than I am. Different genres. [00:17:14] Speaker A: It's really good to hear ying and yang. Yeah, that's you. That's Mr. 1996 over there. [00:17:20] Speaker E: I ain't mad at that. [00:17:21] Speaker A: I ain't mad, but not every day. I don't listen to Shook Ones every day. 1992 again. [00:17:29] Speaker C: It was a good era. [00:17:31] Speaker A: But not every day. [00:17:33] Speaker C: The 90s was a great era for rap. [00:17:37] Speaker A: I will not dispute that. It has not the only rap music. [00:17:41] Speaker C: Has not been duplicated since. [00:17:42] Speaker A: I don't need to be duplicated. [00:17:44] Speaker E: No era that's by design, sir. It was so good in the 90s that the powers that be had no control or power or now. [00:17:51] Speaker A: Absolutely. [00:17:52] Speaker E: Now they can they can manufacture anybody now with the foolishness, that's out now. So I think the 90s was really good, and we're now reaping the negative benefits of it. [00:18:00] Speaker C: The negative benefits of it now. [00:18:02] Speaker A: But I will say now, could Drake when you just it's not fan. It's not trash. It is trash. [00:18:09] Speaker D: Maybe not appealing to those. [00:18:11] Speaker A: It's not that appealing to me, but it's not trash. [00:18:13] Speaker E: I'm not a fan. [00:18:14] Speaker C: Listen to it twice. [00:18:15] Speaker D: I just can't it's not for us, though. [00:18:19] Speaker A: No, but I can understand why someone would like it. [00:18:22] Speaker D: Right. [00:18:22] Speaker A: So before I say somebody's art is trash, right. I can say it's not for me. Right. [00:18:28] Speaker E: Because he's playing with an art not for me. [00:18:30] Speaker A: Like, I listen to rap music. Right. But then he listens to Skull Duggery and what do you tang Cypher Clan? Like, no, just give me the regular wutang I don't want the off branch of the wutang. [00:18:41] Speaker C: I listen to all grave diggers. [00:18:48] Speaker E: It was fire. [00:18:49] Speaker A: No, they weren't fire. They had two hits. [00:18:53] Speaker C: Everybody listened to BCC. Come on, man. [00:18:56] Speaker A: But he's going off. [00:18:57] Speaker E: Yeah. [00:18:58] Speaker A: He's like deep cuts in the album. Like no. [00:19:00] Speaker E: I went still listen to actual Smith and Wesson and not taking Steel brothers. [00:19:07] Speaker C: And not the Cocoa brothers. But although the Cocoa brothers first album was. [00:19:16] Speaker A: No compared to the rappers of that time, they were just okay, true that's. It true. It wasn't true. The elitist, but just deep cuts. I'm not into all that, I guess. Yes. I'm not into all that at all. [00:19:30] Speaker C: Let's get out of music for a little bit. [00:19:31] Speaker A: Okay. Transition. Let's segue out because we leaving your year and then once you leave that year, he going to be no good. It's just radio hits after that. [00:19:40] Speaker C: No, it's not radio hits. I could go afro beats. [00:19:43] Speaker A: What's the last reggae? What's the album you listen to? [00:19:45] Speaker C: The last album I listened to? [00:19:47] Speaker A: Last album you listen to. What's? [00:19:48] Speaker C: The Drake album. [00:19:49] Speaker A: Why? [00:19:50] Speaker C: Because you tell me. I don't listen to stuff. [00:19:53] Speaker A: You can't say somebody's stuff is trash unless you listen and you say, well, I just it's not for me. You can't just don't listen to it. [00:19:59] Speaker C: I listened, okay? And it's not for me. [00:20:02] Speaker A: There's no way there's not a song on Drake's album. [00:20:05] Speaker C: There's one song, first person shooter mode. [00:20:09] Speaker A: First person shooter is really good. J. Cole has a really good verse. That's the only one he didn't know. [00:20:15] Speaker C: That was J. Cole. I put it in my title mix. [00:20:19] Speaker E: For Drake not to even attempt to give his dopest. He could like the 08:00 a.m. In charlote. I did hear that. [00:20:27] Speaker A: Yes. [00:20:29] Speaker E: It appears he gave more effort on his lyricism than he did on first. [00:20:33] Speaker A: He probably needs to leave J. Cole cole alone. Everybody needs to leave the baby go to you got it right. Let me let you go. Yes. Are you going to pull up your one song? [00:20:44] Speaker C: My one song? Which baby? [00:20:47] Speaker A: Daddy? He is a sexy red guy now. I've heard him. [00:20:54] Speaker E: I've heard you have never let me sign up skiing. [00:20:59] Speaker A: He was in the car by himself. [00:21:01] Speaker C: Let me tell you something. If you threw his hands up no, he's a liar. He lies on me. [00:21:09] Speaker A: I was sitting in the car. He didn't know. When he pulled up, I was like, wow, what are you owning? [00:21:17] Speaker C: No. [00:21:18] Speaker A: So I just waited to get out because I didn't want to. [00:21:25] Speaker C: See what I mean? How you pull people. [00:21:27] Speaker A: I like some stuff I should listen to, but it's alone is it private. [00:21:30] Speaker C: I do not listen. [00:21:31] Speaker A: I just can't. [00:21:32] Speaker C: None of that, okay? [00:21:33] Speaker A: You was having a private moment. I innovated your space. I didn't know what you were doing. [00:21:39] Speaker C: But I was never ever. [00:21:41] Speaker A: All right. [00:21:42] Speaker C: Never ever. [00:21:43] Speaker A: Here we go. [00:21:46] Speaker C: Don't believe. [00:21:49] Speaker D: I'm going to be on your side please. [00:21:51] Speaker C: Because all he does is draw people in, and then they believe whatever it is you say. [00:21:55] Speaker E: You heard what Charlamagne said. Sometimes the lies we can't trust is better than the truth. [00:22:00] Speaker A: Yeah, he's a little disappointed now, but I like Charlamagne. [00:22:05] Speaker D: I do. But I just want him to be a little serious sometimes. But be quiet. [00:22:12] Speaker C: Got a question for you guys. Where was you guys first date? [00:22:16] Speaker E: Oh, we were just talking about oh, man. So we realist I want to say Mo's. [00:22:21] Speaker D: It was definitely mo's. [00:22:23] Speaker E: Mo's. [00:22:23] Speaker C: Mo's was the first date. Like, he called you up and said, hey, I want to take you to Mo's. [00:22:27] Speaker E: That was her favorite restaurant. We both love Taco Coles. [00:22:30] Speaker D: Right? [00:22:30] Speaker C: I think I might have cold mo's. [00:22:33] Speaker D: Right. [00:22:33] Speaker E: Well, keep in mind, all right, this is years ago. This was, what, 20 moses ain't never been good. [00:22:41] Speaker A: You missed a boat on that. [00:22:43] Speaker C: I went the other day. [00:22:44] Speaker D: Like, it's just well, we talk about Mose. [00:22:47] Speaker E: Yeah, moses. Moses. [00:22:49] Speaker D: They don't even introduce you no more. Back then. [00:22:50] Speaker A: He's like, welcome to yeah, you say screaming when you come in. [00:22:55] Speaker D: This is different now. You have this generation working at Mose. We're talking about 2010. [00:23:00] Speaker A: They probably text it to you. [00:23:03] Speaker E: It was a date, but it was also an interview. My boy, I thought it was us. [00:23:10] Speaker A: You were interviewing her. [00:23:11] Speaker E: No, sir. [00:23:12] Speaker A: What happened? [00:23:12] Speaker E: No, sir. No, sir. [00:23:14] Speaker C: She rubbing ahead already. [00:23:16] Speaker E: She was like, oh, we going to I school tomorrow. We in the car. We ain't got to get out yet. My friend ain't got here yet. [00:23:21] Speaker C: Yo. Who. [00:23:22] Speaker E: Okay, so her homegirl, which we love. [00:23:25] Speaker D: To this day I did not set. [00:23:27] Speaker E: This up pulls up, and I'm sitting. [00:23:30] Speaker C: On one side of the table. [00:23:31] Speaker E: They both sitting over there, ski Wee interview, full session. [00:23:36] Speaker D: But hold on. Hold on real quick. Because I'm a Delta, we're going to end all this ski. [00:23:40] Speaker A: Okay? It's more like ski. [00:23:44] Speaker E: Yeah, it's a yee. It's a y. Ski Wee. [00:23:46] Speaker A: Because that is the other organization. Yes. [00:23:50] Speaker E: Well, any who's yes. The first interview I mean, excuse me, date was at Mo's. [00:23:56] Speaker A: Mo's. And you passed the interview? Yeah, I did. Did you pay for her friend? [00:24:01] Speaker E: No, I did not. [00:24:02] Speaker A: Wow. [00:24:03] Speaker D: And I wouldn't expect him to. I'd have been like, what you doing? We real different on yeah. [00:24:08] Speaker E: Now, don't get me wrong. [00:24:11] Speaker D: I dated him as hard as he. [00:24:12] Speaker E: Dated me, but it was and keep. [00:24:15] Speaker A: In mind what does that mean? I think that's impossible. First of all. [00:24:19] Speaker D: Okay, not in the same way. Not like, oh, let me take you to this restaurant. But people put so much pressure on guys to like, oh, let me impress. Let me impress. And I tell girls all the time, like, what y'all doing? Don't be slacking. Like, you can do some stuff, too. [00:24:35] Speaker E: Set yourself apart. [00:24:36] Speaker A: Yes. Right. I don't think it's the same, but yes, it's not. But women should require men to impress them. That's part of the problem. [00:24:43] Speaker E: And men hold up now, but at the same time, don't just be a simp. She can do things for you as well. [00:24:48] Speaker A: Oh, no, not a simp, but let's just say in life well, let's say animal, since we have multiple species of human beings. [00:25:00] Speaker E: That's true. [00:25:02] Speaker A: Only the dominant males breed. I remember once upon a time, you had to kind of be that guy to have a girl. Everybody just got a girl now, even if she's a weird girl, you're just too weird together. So you have to separate yourself a little bit. Now, don't go crazy, but you should try to press upon her that this is a little different with no simp action. [00:25:27] Speaker E: No SIM action. [00:25:27] Speaker A: No, I mean mental simps. A lot of mental simps. They just go for whatever the woman say. I'd be like, no, yeah, we're not doing that. That's cool you felt that way, but we're not doing that. And I'm a chauvinist. [00:25:44] Speaker E: Yeah. [00:25:48] Speaker D: But that's attractive, too. [00:25:50] Speaker C: Chauvinist is attractive. [00:25:51] Speaker D: Well, not in that, but you want somebody to be like, no, let me redirect this. [00:25:57] Speaker A: I literally believe women want that to a point. And women have to do that to men, too, because I've equally been told no. [00:26:03] Speaker E: Yeah, you like a little dominance in your woman as well. At least I do. [00:26:07] Speaker A: Oh, no, I like a little parole officer. [00:26:09] Speaker E: Yeah. [00:26:10] Speaker A: What you doing? I thought you about to see him with the handcuff. [00:26:18] Speaker C: I asked that question due to the fact that there was the video that went viral of the young lady who refused to get out the car when her date took her to the Cheesecake Factory and she thought she was doing something until the guy she put the guy on camera. He said no, I'll come on. Want me to be on? I'll be on. Sits down and he explains, well, we're here because we had a reservation somewhere else. Somewhere else at our nicer restaurant. But because you were an hour late, the reservation was gone, so I still wanted to take you out. So this is where we came. [00:26:57] Speaker A: I blame the man, though, for that. [00:26:58] Speaker C: Okay. [00:26:59] Speaker A: Shouldn't took her nowhere. We should just we'll try this another day. [00:27:04] Speaker E: Take out at that point or something. [00:27:05] Speaker C: Yeah, no, not take out. [00:27:06] Speaker A: No. [00:27:07] Speaker C: Good night. I'll see you another time. [00:27:09] Speaker A: Well, I mean, I don't know. It depends on what kind of action you got going on. I ain't going to say this. No good night, but we definitely wouldn't have been caught on camera. We didn't get some at the house and something different. [00:27:18] Speaker C: But remember, she didn't allow him in the house. Like, she was like, no, you cannot come in my house, because he was sitting in the car the whole time. [00:27:25] Speaker E: I don't got to go to your house, man. [00:27:27] Speaker C: He was sitting in the car the whole time. [00:27:29] Speaker A: Wasn't he an Indian? [00:27:32] Speaker D: I was trying not to bring that up. [00:27:33] Speaker A: Yeah. And I think some of that is. [00:27:35] Speaker D: A lot of it came into play. [00:27:36] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:27:37] Speaker E: But she was trying to take advantage of that. [00:27:38] Speaker C: But he did say he was like, well, I guess we have nothing in common, so I'm going to take you home. The end of the video, he took her home. [00:27:45] Speaker A: It wouldn't have been no video with me. He's looking weird. [00:27:54] Speaker E: And I was like, okay. At this point, they must have paid him because he looks so uncomfortable. [00:27:58] Speaker A: He did look very is this something she does? Is she like so she's probably not. [00:28:05] Speaker C: Because due to that the first one that came out, there's a multiplicity of lists that have hit the airwave, and each one has been a response to the other. But the first one was a group of ladies made a list of places men shouldn't take them. [00:28:20] Speaker A: Ever. Or first date. [00:28:21] Speaker C: First date. Absolutely refused to go on a first date. Cheesecake Factory. Applebee's. Chili's Chipotle. Olive Garden. The movies. Your house. Any fast food. Chain. Buffalo. Wild Wings. Wingstop. Wingstop. Got some good wings. They do. Red Lobster. A buffet. IHOP Denny's. The gym. That's a good date. Church. Starbucks. Coffee dates. Ice cream dates. Family functions. Movie night. Netflix, Hulu, et cetera. Somewhere that requires a long drive. Bowling, a nightclub. A hookah bar. A bar just for drinks. Waffle House or a sports event. [00:29:05] Speaker E: These women, crazy. [00:29:06] Speaker A: She's going to get on a spaceship. [00:29:09] Speaker E: She won't Noble for the first because in my opinion, everything in a relationship should be building and better as it climbs. [00:29:15] Speaker A: It does. [00:29:16] Speaker E: If we're starting at the semi top, where are we going? Where are we going from there? But she won't steak 48. [00:29:22] Speaker A: Good question. [00:29:23] Speaker C: Good question. [00:29:24] Speaker D: That's my let's go back, because when you're talking about a date, on average, what would I say? How long have you been talking to get to a date? And I don't understand why you think. [00:29:34] Speaker E: You earned a $300 meal. [00:29:38] Speaker A: So you don't know how she wants. [00:29:41] Speaker E: To know how long she's hypothetically asking, how long have we been talking since we got to this first date? [00:29:47] Speaker D: I feel like that's fast. [00:29:48] Speaker E: Because you could talk to somebody for three, two, three days and make it to a date. [00:29:52] Speaker D: Right. How does the expectation jump? And I just met you. [00:29:55] Speaker C: Maybe like, well, it could be from their previous experience of people that they've dated prior. [00:30:00] Speaker D: Oh, like what they're accustomed to. [00:30:01] Speaker C: What they're accustomed to. [00:30:03] Speaker A: I saw her braids. [00:30:04] Speaker E: She wasn't accustomed to all that. [00:30:08] Speaker C: She didn't look like an hour late. She didn't look like it. [00:30:11] Speaker A: I don't think it's about this individual person. And it's cool to say you haven't dated women, but it's dating women. Women are a lot. And if you're not a man enough to handle the allotments, you will get ran over. You will get showed a list that. [00:30:32] Speaker C: You'Re not going to go to because we're. [00:30:33] Speaker A: Not going to discuss a list. I'll be like, I'm cool. [00:30:35] Speaker C: But there's guys who actually took this and said, oh, man, I can't take her here. There's some guys out there that are going to abide by it 100%. [00:30:42] Speaker A: That's because they listen to women and. [00:30:44] Speaker E: They go be at Del Frisco's spending $400 on the entry level and for her to find out she don't even. [00:30:50] Speaker C: Like you at the end of the day. [00:30:53] Speaker A: Yeah, well, I guess when you follow trends, this is what happens. Kind of happens. Like if you don't follow the trend of it all. I don't know what the list has to do with a person dating, though. [00:31:03] Speaker C: Thank you. [00:31:04] Speaker E: You put more emphasis on the location opposed to the purpose. [00:31:08] Speaker A: Yes. Right. And what if I don't like you? [00:31:11] Speaker C: Right. [00:31:13] Speaker D: Are you going to give me my money? [00:31:14] Speaker E: No, not all women, but you got women who have expectations from the men in their lives that they don't even. [00:31:21] Speaker C: Hold to that they never hold to them. Yes. [00:31:22] Speaker E: You wouldn't even take yourself to a $200 meal, yet you want me to spend 200 plus on our meal. [00:31:27] Speaker A: You said not to the men in. [00:31:29] Speaker C: Their lives, not to the men that she's dating. [00:31:31] Speaker E: Right. [00:31:32] Speaker C: It's like you're expecting me to do this, but you won't even do that for yourself. [00:31:37] Speaker E: Let's say average woman is hungry and she wants to step out and grab a meal. You going to get a fillet? [00:31:43] Speaker A: No. [00:31:43] Speaker E: Lobster mac and cheese and a couple of drinks for yourself. [00:31:46] Speaker C: No. [00:31:47] Speaker E: But now, because I'm in your life, I'm expected to do this for you. [00:31:51] Speaker A: Yes. [00:31:52] Speaker E: You see what I'm saying? [00:31:53] Speaker A: But I think when you date down, it requires that person to kind of step up in a manner that they have to try to do what you say. Because you can date out your league, right. Men and women. Yeah. So if you are dating out your lead, you're better off just tolling a standard. Because like you said, there are a lot of simple men out here and. [00:32:14] Speaker C: They willing to go, oh, that's what we're going to do. [00:32:17] Speaker E: Go broke to impress this woman. [00:32:19] Speaker C: Yes. When you act like that sometimes doesn't work out right for you, she seems. [00:32:28] Speaker D: Like a serial dater. She was like, oh, I was raised where this is what men are supposed to do. You're supposed to take care of me from day one. So it sounds like that's what she does, find these guys. [00:32:39] Speaker A: Isn't she defining what take care is? Because take care is different for every man, every woman. [00:32:45] Speaker D: Why would people take care of anything. [00:32:47] Speaker C: On the first date? [00:32:49] Speaker E: I want to know where that original reservation was. [00:32:51] Speaker D: I wanted to know that as well. [00:32:54] Speaker C: In the video, it says for the restaurant you picked out, that was another question. [00:33:00] Speaker E: It's several questions that lit like, did he not ask her where she wanted to go eat? [00:33:03] Speaker C: No. I think when it changed, I think initially they were going to the restaurant that she picked and she was an hour late and he was on time. He said he got there an hour early and still waited for her the hour and then an hour after that. [00:33:20] Speaker A: Well, see, his simping started immediately. He should have allowed that. I do believe sometimes people know because. [00:33:32] Speaker D: I think everybody can feel, oh, I can easily get this person to do XYZ no matter if they move on and she moved on, it like, oh, you here hour early. [00:33:39] Speaker E: She ain't accustomed to none of that. Because think about this. [00:33:41] Speaker A: He ain't either. [00:33:42] Speaker E: Name one restaurant. Like, any restaurant of statue that we go to that you can just pop up and have and be seated immediately. [00:33:49] Speaker D: No, they had a reservation. [00:33:50] Speaker C: Right? [00:33:50] Speaker E: But I'm saying so for her to even be like, well, I'm not going here. If you wanted to go to a nicer restaurant you bought to wait a. [00:33:56] Speaker A: Good hour, there's been a line at Cheesecake Factor. [00:34:03] Speaker E: I don't care if it's the simplest restaurant. I don't go anywhere without a reservation. So I know if you go into a place of white tablecloth lending or what have you, oh, you need a reservation, or you wait hour and a half. [00:34:17] Speaker C: And that's if you get to eat. [00:34:19] Speaker A: Right. [00:34:20] Speaker C: Because in those places, there's a spot. It's like a seven month wait. [00:34:25] Speaker E: You're talking about get a table in Cali in the Vineyard? [00:34:29] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:34:31] Speaker E: What's it called? I know exactly what you're talking about. It's like a seven to eight month. [00:34:37] Speaker C: Wait to get a table. And I just think that then it's the catch up on the where. But for what if it's a first date? It's more talking than anything else. The food, you hope it's good, but at the end of the day, I've been to an expensive restaurant and the food sucks. [00:34:57] Speaker D: I was going to say the food was horrible. [00:34:59] Speaker A: Yeah, if you can take good pictures there, the food usually sucks. They're trying to create a lot of good Instagram pictures because the lighting is. [00:35:10] Speaker E: Definitely down in there's. Not ambiance. There's candles on the table, but it's. [00:35:17] Speaker C: Not a real grass. [00:35:18] Speaker D: It's all bad now. I would hate to be dating now if I was a guy. I feel bad for you all. [00:35:25] Speaker C: Thank you. [00:35:26] Speaker A: Just you, sir. [00:35:27] Speaker C: Thank you. I appreciate it. [00:35:29] Speaker D: Well, be out here dating. I only say that because now it's like girls like, oh, take me on a trip. Like, that's a date, too. [00:35:34] Speaker C: That's not for me. [00:35:35] Speaker A: Well, it's nothing wrong with asking, but I reserve the right to say, no, I'm cool. I see what you're trying to do. [00:35:41] Speaker D: I feel like your background, your environment isn't matching what you're asking, like, your current situation. [00:35:46] Speaker A: What if a man doesn't care? Because I literally and this may work for me, may not might be exposing the seekers here. When you meet in a woman, I think you should listen to nothing she says. She has no idea what she wants. She's never experienced you allow her to experience you at your level, whatever that level is. [00:36:05] Speaker E: Get what you're saying. [00:36:06] Speaker A: Yeah, I'm just like, nah, I get what you're saying. I could take you shopping. And it's not because I got a bill. No, I'm just not no, I'm not doing that. And it's really simple. [00:36:17] Speaker E: You got women, and not all women, some I ain't going to step on the toes, but you got women who have expectations from the man that they wit but didn't have a male in their life. [00:36:30] Speaker A: They did. [00:36:30] Speaker E: You got women who got an expectation of what their husband should do or things that a husband should do but didn't witness a marriage growing up. [00:36:38] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. [00:36:38] Speaker E: You know what I'm saying? So all they have is just an expectation opposed to what actually is the intricate parts of it that works. [00:36:45] Speaker A: Oh, wow. [00:36:48] Speaker C: That goes for guys, too. Yeah, that goes for guys, too. [00:36:53] Speaker E: No, I'm just ain't sitting here telling a woman exactly. [00:36:56] Speaker C: I'm talking about in a sense of how to treat a woman. [00:37:03] Speaker A: How can a woman tell you how. [00:37:04] Speaker C: To treat no, I'm not saying how. That's the point. Without a lot of positive male reinforcement in your life, you sometimes do not know, and you have to learn on the fly. You make a lot of mistakes along the way. Who trying to figure out? Not you. [00:37:18] Speaker A: I'm the only reason the only reason I'm saying this the only reason I'm saying this is not because I know better. You have to know who you are once you have a firm grip of who you are. If I know, I got $57 in the bank, and it's got to last but next Friday. But you got to get there's nothing you could tell. [00:37:36] Speaker C: You didn't grow up seeing that or knowing that. You have to learn. [00:37:39] Speaker A: But I think it's common sense. [00:37:41] Speaker C: All sense ain't so common. [00:37:42] Speaker A: I understand that, but look at all the foolishness you done did. [00:37:46] Speaker C: Yes. [00:37:46] Speaker A: You ain't learned at your house. I'll say, me, my parents, I've never seen my parents curse, argue. I've seen nothing, ideally, best parents in the world. All that stuff I was doing, I had nothing to do with my house. [00:38:00] Speaker E: That's real. [00:38:01] Speaker A: I've been drinking and got to the dough and got sober. Real to go right to the real quick. Yes, ma'am speaking. [00:38:07] Speaker E: And everything cool. [00:38:10] Speaker A: Lock in. [00:38:11] Speaker E: Yeah. [00:38:12] Speaker C: But I think when you're talking about that type behavior, it's different than it is in dating and marriage and stuff like that. In a sense of seeing a positive model of what you said, all you know is your parents being together, right? [00:38:30] Speaker A: Yeah. I don't even know if they have problems because that wasn't shared with children. [00:38:34] Speaker C: That's what I'm saying. And you've said on the show, you said, I didn't know my mom had sex other than one time. [00:38:40] Speaker A: No, I said four times. [00:38:42] Speaker C: Four times because of the kids. [00:38:45] Speaker A: Just because I didn't know that was. [00:38:48] Speaker E: Like, yeah, you wasn't curious enough. Because I walk in on Mike and. [00:38:52] Speaker A: Linda, plenty of no, I've walked in. [00:38:56] Speaker C: On Edison and Jennifer. But I'm saying, like, I wasn't in my dad multiple women, my mom from an abusive relationship mentally with my dad to an abusive relationship physically with the guy after him, and I hadn't seen it, so I made a bunch of mistakes. [00:39:17] Speaker A: Because you didn't see it or because. [00:39:19] Speaker E: I see what you're saying. No, what you saw, you didn't have. [00:39:23] Speaker C: I don't think, in my latter years. Now I know better. [00:39:28] Speaker D: But you probably were later aware, early. [00:39:30] Speaker E: Teenager, while you were making that behavior. [00:39:33] Speaker C: Becomes it becomes a snowball. [00:39:35] Speaker D: Right. [00:39:36] Speaker A: So you're telling me so they make sure I understand because you didn't see something you couldn't do better. [00:39:43] Speaker D: That's not what he's saying, okay. He's saying, like, some of those things naturally happen just how you were saying. You're from a certain household, you said you did differently, but that was a choice you made. I think your natural reaction would have been to go the way that you saw. And he's saying maybe he wasn't as aware, so he had to go through some things and learn, and now he knows. [00:40:03] Speaker A: So he didn't have a choice. [00:40:04] Speaker D: Naturally, he did. [00:40:08] Speaker C: I'm not taking out of my choice to do the things that I had done. I'm just saying I think that if you see better, you're more likely to do better. Doesn't mean you always do better. When I was doing wrong, did I know I was doing wrong? [00:40:25] Speaker A: Yes. [00:40:26] Speaker C: He's saying his eyes would be different to me. [00:40:31] Speaker A: So you didn't know you were wrong? [00:40:32] Speaker C: I knew I was wrong, but I didn't see anything better, so I thought it was, well, this is normal, right? [00:40:38] Speaker A: Okay. [00:40:42] Speaker C: Now, as I go through life and people get hurt or I get hurt and these bad decisions, one grows upon another, and you go, oh, man. And stuff becomes a habit. Now you got to kind of figure out and go, oh, well, and then now you meet people that are in positive relationships that come and that change. Five years of us doing this show, I've learned from you. I would like to think, as you should now, I still do some wrong stuff. [00:41:10] Speaker A: No, but I think we learn from each other. [00:41:12] Speaker C: But I'm just saying, I at least know when I come to the show and I say something, it's going to be like, come on. [00:41:17] Speaker A: You said, well, I just don't know if that's a real reason for people not doing things. Because there are people. Nobody in their family is educated. [00:41:27] Speaker E: That's true. [00:41:27] Speaker D: And they go off, they go to school. [00:41:30] Speaker A: I have a cousin. I don't know if anybody graduated. Daddy, mama, older siblings. He's got a doctorate now. He was never made to go to school, went all the way through. [00:41:47] Speaker C: I mean, I'm the only one in my family with a degree. [00:41:50] Speaker A: Okay, but you made a decision at some point to say, I need to do better and I need to finally do better. It's not based upon what I've seen. [00:42:00] Speaker C: No, but I got there. But here's the thing. I got there because of the decisions I made going in and then going, remember, I wasn't a freshman until 21 because I had messed up a bunch of crap because I thought that education was not important. My high school grades suck, and it wasn't until some situations my grandma was like, look, man, I'm not deal with you until you figure out you got to do something. And it wasn't until that that I ended up doing my sister doesn't have one. My brother doesn't have one. My mom, my dad, my younger brother doesn't have one. [00:42:34] Speaker A: But you still made a decision. [00:42:36] Speaker C: But I did. [00:42:37] Speaker A: Not based upon what you saw? [00:42:38] Speaker D: No, but he likelihood, like, say if he saw everybody go to school, he's just saying he feels like he probably just would have naturally gone to school versus he's just saying, like right now. [00:42:52] Speaker C: With my kids, my two oldest daughters in college, my oldest is in both on scholarship. [00:42:58] Speaker A: In your point? [00:42:59] Speaker C: I'm just saying they saw both of myself and both their mothers went to college and graduated. And I'm just saying the emphasis has been on, hey, you need this education to go forward. [00:43:11] Speaker E: It was value was placed in it. Value was they now understand it and why. That's the path. [00:43:16] Speaker D: The likelihood was higher. [00:43:17] Speaker C: The likelihood is higher for them. [00:43:19] Speaker E: That compared to how people treat relationships. I'm not going to say women is, in my opinion, slightly different. They're not on the same role. [00:43:28] Speaker A: Okay. [00:43:28] Speaker E: Because like you saying from what he witnessed from his mom and things, he may have not known how to interact with the woman in a certain way. He only knows how to interact with a woman. What he experienced opposed to trying to make it through life and be like, okay, you know what? Yeah, I need to get this education if I want to do this or I want to go here, I want to do that. That's two totally different lanes in my opinion. [00:43:53] Speaker A: Okay, well, let me ask you this. Don't you know you're lying and conniving? [00:43:59] Speaker D: Why are you doing why are you. [00:44:01] Speaker A: Doing these things with women? Don't you know at some point, but. [00:44:04] Speaker E: Does it feel wrong? [00:44:05] Speaker A: Well, I'm saying me, I'm going to say me personally. I know when I'm wrong. Sometimes I indulge in the wrong. I say I'm wrong, but I'm going to do this right. That's a decision, right? Right. So I feel and I say feel because feelings don't matter, but they matter to the person. If, you know, you have to do all of this twisting and turning to do all this stuff in relationship and I got to lie to you and come over here at some point, you say, you know, I might be wrong. [00:44:32] Speaker E: But the person in that feels good to do it. You'd have been a player before. It felt good to lie to this woman. [00:44:41] Speaker C: It feels good. [00:44:42] Speaker A: It feels good to lie to the. [00:44:43] Speaker E: Woman in that situation. [00:44:44] Speaker A: Okay. Now, you personally in that situation, in. [00:44:50] Speaker C: That situation. [00:44:53] Speaker E: To be conniving, it felt good because I was in the world at that time. Now that I know better, it's like a charity. [00:45:01] Speaker C: It was like a win. It was like, essentially, yeah, I got. [00:45:04] Speaker A: Over, but it's a loss. [00:45:06] Speaker E: Not in that moment. [00:45:07] Speaker C: Not at the moment. [00:45:08] Speaker E: He wasn't trying to win the championship. He just wanted to win that game. [00:45:11] Speaker D: He's trying to get on base. They lost. They didn't care. They're like, oh, well, I won. [00:45:14] Speaker C: Then one thing, and then you build up and build up and build up. And like I said, the snowball effect. And now you're living with your decision. Yeah. This might not have been the right course of action, the things that I needed to be doing, but you right. [00:45:30] Speaker E: You end up he's like, yeah. [00:45:35] Speaker A: I just don't know how I'm aware when I'm wrong. Right? [00:45:40] Speaker E: Were you aware that you were wrong at 16? [00:45:42] Speaker A: Yes, I knew I was sneaking to do this. Okay. I knew at my house we weren't doing we going to church, hondy. [00:45:49] Speaker C: Like, you hear what he's saying, though, now? What did he just say? The most important word or most important phrase in my house? You knew in my house. It was not that, but I did. [00:46:01] Speaker A: Stuff that wasn't in the house. No, I chose to nobody. [00:46:05] Speaker C: Because you knew you had consequences for that. Right. [00:46:08] Speaker E: Opposed to him having that place that wasn't accepted. [00:46:11] Speaker C: My dad didn't care. [00:46:13] Speaker A: Not too much on your mother and father. [00:46:15] Speaker C: I'm just saying it's still going to hear you. I know. And my mom listens. [00:46:19] Speaker A: Come on now. [00:46:20] Speaker C: My mom listens to the show. My dad listens every now and then, hey, Mama. My dad didn't care. My mom worked a lot, so she was never home. So a lot of the stuff we did, like you're talking about drinking and all of that, and we fill in the dog on house, and as soon as she gets home, she's got kids laid all over, she yells, screams, and then she leaves the next morning for work. [00:46:40] Speaker A: You didn't know you was wrong. You had to know you was wrong. [00:46:43] Speaker C: There was no consequences for my actions. [00:46:45] Speaker A: You didn't do it, but you knew she was wrong. [00:46:49] Speaker C: Even though I knew I was wrong, it was no consequence to my actions if I don't never get in trouble for it. [00:46:54] Speaker A: I'm talking about but I'm talking about I'm talking about if you were wrong, not the consequence. [00:47:00] Speaker C: No. Yes. [00:47:01] Speaker A: Okay, so you made a choice. [00:47:04] Speaker C: Yes. [00:47:04] Speaker A: Okay. [00:47:04] Speaker E: Conscious decision. [00:47:05] Speaker A: Yes. [00:47:06] Speaker C: It's still a conscious decision, but if there's no consequence. [00:47:09] Speaker E: It doesn't matter. [00:47:10] Speaker C: It doesn't matter. See, like, you're having a conversation with me. The equivalent is what I'm having with my brother currently. [00:47:15] Speaker A: Okay, not too much on your brother now cause you problems. [00:47:25] Speaker C: He's about to be reinserted into the world. [00:47:28] Speaker A: I know. [00:47:29] Speaker C: And he still has not come to terms with the fact that he has bipolar disorder. So if we're having a conversation about you being reinserted into the world and moving into Mommy's house, who can't deal. [00:47:41] Speaker D: With it, then you need to figure out what you're going that part. Right. [00:47:46] Speaker C: So it's just a matter of sometimes people, when they're in it, they don't see it they don't see it as a problem. If a person doesn't feel like they're sick, are they going to take the medication? [00:47:57] Speaker A: Okay. [00:47:58] Speaker C: No. So whether they make a decision to even know or feel or whatever, because did I know I was wrong? It sure did. Did it feel right in the moment? Sure did. [00:48:08] Speaker A: And it feel right in the moment? [00:48:09] Speaker C: In the moment? Maybe not. [00:48:11] Speaker A: After crying girls tell him stuff. [00:48:13] Speaker C: He'd be shut up. [00:48:14] Speaker A: Poetry. Come on. Every girl didn't let you get away with everything. [00:48:28] Speaker C: No. I did sing a song once. [00:48:30] Speaker A: Okay, what song was it? [00:48:32] Speaker E: His girl name from the 90s. What was it? [00:48:34] Speaker C: Bended Knee. [00:48:36] Speaker A: You did all four parts? [00:48:39] Speaker C: Oh, no, I did all four parts. Funny story. So, Rochelle, my mom made me take another girl to the prom. [00:48:51] Speaker A: Your mother? We're blaming your mother? [00:48:54] Speaker C: No, I'm going to tell you why my mom said I'm not paid. Because at my school, if another senior went, they paid for their ticket. If you went with an underclassman, you had to pay for the underclassman's ticket. I'm not paying for nobody's ticket. You going with a senior because they going already. So I ended up going with this girl who was cool, but it wasn't nothing to it. [00:49:16] Speaker E: Oh, man. [00:49:16] Speaker C: My girlfriend got upset, dumped me on the spot. [00:49:19] Speaker A: Okay. [00:49:24] Speaker C: Yeah, I had a girlfriend. [00:49:25] Speaker A: Your mama can't make you go, right? [00:49:27] Speaker E: Yes, she can. [00:49:28] Speaker C: I was not going to miss prom. That was just moment. In that moment, I was not going to miss prom. [00:49:33] Speaker E: Your mama can make you get dressed and leave the house because she can't make you go. [00:49:36] Speaker C: Yeah. So I went. [00:49:37] Speaker A: Okay. [00:49:42] Speaker C: And I got broken up with. Right? So the next day, Ibrahim, okay, I asked him, I said, man, what I got to do? What do you think I should do? Look who I'm asking. [00:49:54] Speaker A: Yes. [00:49:55] Speaker C: He said, you know what he said, Joe? You pride me. Now, today he told me he set me up. But he was like, you know what you should do, man? You're going to have to do something big like sing. I was like, all right. So I called on the phone. She got on the phone, I was like, hey, I'm apologizing. I said, I'm going to sing you something. She was like, okay, I sung the song. [00:50:18] Speaker A: Why would you? [00:50:19] Speaker C: Let swear. [00:50:19] Speaker A: Do you like that? You know this was wrong. [00:50:21] Speaker C: After I sung the song, it was quiet for like about 5 seconds, and then all I heard on the other end of the phone apparently no, not just her. Apparently she put me on speakerphone. [00:50:34] Speaker A: I knew it. Oh, wow. [00:50:36] Speaker C: Everybody in her background was laughing, and Ibrahim bust out laughing. [00:50:40] Speaker A: He was there. Me and him lived together. [00:50:43] Speaker C: This is when he was living with me and my mom. [00:50:45] Speaker A: Okay. [00:50:46] Speaker C: He laughed so hard, he rolled off the bed because we shared a room off the bed onto the floor. And we laugh. He sound like Elmo. So it's laughing from him. It's laughing from my brother because my brother high, so he dying laughing. And on the phone, all I'm hearing is girls just laughing. [00:51:02] Speaker B: I would have died, man. [00:51:04] Speaker A: I was so embarrassed. [00:51:05] Speaker C: I was so embarrassed. And then I couldn't sing either. And I was in it to the. [00:51:12] Speaker E: Root of the problem. Nothing to do with mama. None of that situation scarred you. [00:51:20] Speaker C: And. [00:51:20] Speaker E: You took it out on everybody for the next, like, ten years. [00:51:23] Speaker C: No, I'm going to tell you what scarred me was the first time I tried to ask somebody out. I was 13. I had just came back from living in Trinidad, and I had a heavy accent. And this girl told me, no, you're ugly, and I can't understand anything you're saying. I went home and cried. [00:51:46] Speaker E: Yeah, cried. Now they love the accent. [00:51:49] Speaker C: No, I don't have them. I don't have a heavy accent now. I don't have accent at all. Right. [00:51:52] Speaker A: Now. He didn't say your accent. They love that. [00:51:54] Speaker C: Oh, they love other people accent. Other people accent. If you're a foreigner, they own you. I've been scarred, but it ain't been not a lot. [00:52:03] Speaker E: I get it, man. [00:52:04] Speaker A: Wow. So there's more to it story? It's way more to it. [00:52:10] Speaker C: I don't know if that's what got to do with it, but, yeah, that did hurt. I cried. My aunt put me in front of the mirror talking to myself. See that person right there? That's a man. [00:52:21] Speaker A: Wow. That's your aunt speaking life into you, man. [00:52:25] Speaker E: I got dumped at 13. The girl had wrote me a letter and put it in my locker, right? [00:52:28] Speaker A: Oh, I did this real check this out. [00:52:31] Speaker E: So she told me, I put a note in your locker. So I went and opened the locker. I'm standing there at the locker reading it. I turned around, her and all her friends behind me watching my reaction to the letter. [00:52:40] Speaker A: Oh, wow. [00:52:41] Speaker C: Man. Women cruel, man. [00:52:42] Speaker E: Especially at 13. [00:52:43] Speaker C: Wow. [00:52:44] Speaker A: Did you so said Texan breakup over text. Just wrote a letter to him folded. [00:52:55] Speaker E: Like a ninja star. [00:52:57] Speaker A: Wow. [00:52:58] Speaker D: And I already knew I was old. This other boy want to be in relationship. Me, I got to get out of this. [00:53:04] Speaker A: Wow. [00:53:05] Speaker C: Okay, so get back a little bit to the list. We got a little personal, or I did at least. [00:53:14] Speaker D: But the men retaliated. [00:53:16] Speaker C: The men retaliated. So here's what the men said. [00:53:18] Speaker A: The men in general, men in general. [00:53:21] Speaker C: Came up with a list and they. [00:53:24] Speaker A: Said, first, I'm saying before you say that I'm against all of this because men can't do what women do and vice versa sometimes. [00:53:31] Speaker E: Facts. [00:53:32] Speaker A: Yeah. So when you try to go with. [00:53:36] Speaker E: A woman, you lose, because they way pettier than us. [00:53:40] Speaker C: I don't even care about oh, because the women came with a retort to this. Okay, so this one says, a group of men make a list of the kinds of women you should never take on a date. [00:53:54] Speaker A: Kind of. We went from restaurants to the type. [00:53:56] Speaker E: Of people that sounds personal. [00:53:57] Speaker A: That sounds way personal. [00:53:59] Speaker C: Yeah. Single mothers. Women with tattoos. Wow. Women who dress like this in public. Sex workers only. Fans. [00:54:06] Speaker A: Girls. [00:54:06] Speaker C: Mattress actresses. [00:54:08] Speaker A: Mattress actresses? What is that? [00:54:11] Speaker C: Strippers. [00:54:11] Speaker A: She has sex with somebody. [00:54:12] Speaker E: Corn with the P stars. [00:54:14] Speaker C: Yeah, porn stars. Mattresses strippers. Call girls. Escorts. Instagram models. Bottle girls. Women with an IG page. Women with a non ear piercing. Women with. [00:54:30] Speaker E: Nose piercings belly. [00:54:33] Speaker A: Wow. [00:54:34] Speaker C: Women with any color, unnatural hair. Women with whole friends. Model. [00:54:40] Speaker A: Come on. Holes ain't holes not bad. Men are women. They're not. Because let me tell you something, I ain't saying sexually, but I got some friends. Give me some great advice, great stories through their traumatic experiences. Wow. [00:54:55] Speaker E: Holes ain't bad. [00:54:58] Speaker C: That's the type of episode. Models who market to men. Women who travel regularly. [00:55:05] Speaker A: That one blew me. Yeah, regularly. [00:55:08] Speaker C: Women who drink liquor regularly. Women with weak or absentee fathers. Women who live alone. Women with a party voice. Women party voice. [00:55:20] Speaker D: Like a raspy, like a sexy red. [00:55:23] Speaker A: Oh, that's a party voice. I didn't know. [00:55:25] Speaker C: Yeah. Women on dating apps. Women who have been on Fresh and Fit. Women with lists. Women who have been engaged, divorcees, american black women and women raised in the west. [00:55:44] Speaker E: And I honestly think it is a ploy that every podcast or somebody has put out. Everyone is on some men against women type gender wars, but I'm not sure. [00:55:59] Speaker D: If that I don't think for this. [00:56:01] Speaker C: One, but I think it's more so played. They're playing to whatever society is putting out and then amplifying. [00:56:08] Speaker A: Who is society? Exactly? I thought we was a part of society. [00:56:10] Speaker C: No, we are, but I'm just saying, whatever's happening, social media not. We know the Internet is not a real place, so whatever's trending shouldn't treat. [00:56:17] Speaker A: It like it's real. [00:56:18] Speaker C: But people, a lot of people, it's real. [00:56:22] Speaker E: You can get money off these little cell phones in our hands. [00:56:24] Speaker C: This is some people, they post in the post because you post enough, they'll start giving you money. [00:56:30] Speaker A: But you know, like 5% of people who make money off the Internet, the rest of you 95 just there. [00:56:35] Speaker E: Right? [00:56:38] Speaker A: People I know. With YouTube ages and has never made a dollar. [00:56:41] Speaker C: Yeah, I know. [00:56:43] Speaker A: At least 100. [00:56:44] Speaker C: Our podcast is one. [00:56:47] Speaker A: I digress. I'm in there, too. I didn't even know 101 didn't make nothing. [00:56:55] Speaker C: You got to do this like you said, man, it's just people going back and forth. And then so the ladies came up with a retort to that one, and we could go all day on that. And then people just started saying stuff like, what's one? Your whole outfit is from Shein, but you won't go to Cheesecake Factory. [00:57:12] Speaker E: For real. [00:57:12] Speaker C: Where do you draw the line? [00:57:13] Speaker A: Well, hold on a second. Who won this battle? Because the men lost. Yeah. [00:57:17] Speaker E: Instagram. [00:57:18] Speaker A: Instagram. [00:57:19] Speaker C: Social media. [00:57:20] Speaker E: They getting money off of social media. One clicks and what and shares social media. [00:57:25] Speaker C: One has. [00:57:27] Speaker A: It's a sad time. [00:57:29] Speaker D: It is. It all boils down to you can want what you want and maybe somebody out there do it. [00:57:36] Speaker A: Yeah, but everybody's going to take less at some point. Everybody's going to get more at some point. So you just hope your moors are a lot. [00:57:51] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:57:51] Speaker A: Now, we might start at Cheesecake Factory, and then we might can go up, right? [00:57:55] Speaker C: Or Wendy's. [00:57:57] Speaker A: Well, I mean, he's Mr. Four for four here. You want to go back to you? I think you originally created the list. Tell him your first date. Tell him what you say. You take women on your first date. [00:58:09] Speaker C: To Wendy's, it has upgraded to the biggie bag. [00:58:13] Speaker A: But what quality of woman do you with this? [00:58:18] Speaker C: Lyn went and had a good time. [00:58:21] Speaker A: You need to beat her name out, because that ain't fair. The one woman who believes in me. [00:58:29] Speaker E: It ain't the food that matter, man. It's the content. [00:58:32] Speaker C: Thank you. [00:58:35] Speaker D: Why are you making just going to eat while we talk. [00:58:38] Speaker E: What you want to eat? Especially because most men go ask the woman, so what you want to eat? Where do you want to go? [00:58:42] Speaker A: But his emphasis is going to Wendy's. He hadn't even met the woman. We going to Wendy's no matter what. Yeah, I think that's where women go. [00:58:48] Speaker E: Wendy's, we were just talking about I missed 90s Wendy's, though. 90s Dave Thomas was doing the thing. Wendy's taste better. [00:58:54] Speaker A: Okay. [00:58:55] Speaker C: Yeah, the yellow pack. [00:58:57] Speaker A: They sell the yellow. [00:58:57] Speaker C: Yellow no, they don't have red now. [00:59:01] Speaker A: Okay. [00:59:01] Speaker C: They changed the fries and all. Like fries. [00:59:04] Speaker A: Not bad. [00:59:04] Speaker C: Doing, too. The old ones were bad. [00:59:06] Speaker E: I was just saying. It's like, we need to create a restaurant, call it Ninety S. Ninety S and have 90s recipes for all of our current food. [00:59:14] Speaker C: It might make some money. [00:59:15] Speaker E: It would. [00:59:17] Speaker A: You would have to get the industry secrets to make that work. [00:59:19] Speaker E: Precisely. Oh, we can find them. [00:59:22] Speaker A: You can find them. [00:59:23] Speaker D: Close. [00:59:25] Speaker C: Well, speaking of getting found, when and where can people find your podcast? [00:59:29] Speaker E: Please check us out. Vorgasmic vibes, podcast. It is available on all platforms. Airs on Thursdays and come check. US out. We try to do our thing, relationship information, try to interject a little funny into it. Feel free to email us at [email protected]. [00:59:50] Speaker D: We're open to doing any topics. [00:59:52] Speaker C: And how can they find you on. [00:59:53] Speaker D: The social Vorgasmic vibes on Facebook? Soon we'll be on Instagram and YouTube as well. [01:00:00] Speaker C: Okay. And see. [01:00:02] Speaker A: Yep. [01:00:04] Speaker C: Where can the people find you, sir? [01:00:06] Speaker A: Tell them don't listen to the show. Don't find me, because I'm probably not going to respond. [01:00:14] Speaker C: Well, you can find the show at Relstat podcast on all social media platforms, and you can find a show each and every Monday and Wednesday wherever you find your podcast for free. 99. And don't forget, if you want to join the conversation, email us relstat [email protected]. 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[01:01:35] Speaker C: It's always something all, which I don't. [01:01:40] Speaker A: Have a problem with. [01:01:41] Speaker D: But Debbie, you available. [01:01:43] Speaker C: She's always available. She's available to do what she wants to do when she wants to do it.